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Category:Recipients of the Médaille Militaire

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The result of the discussion was: relisted at CFD 2014 Feb 18. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 12:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: The correct name has a lowercase m. The previous CfD Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_August_30#Military_awards probably did not realize the error in capitalization Werieth (talk) 20:54, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"The Order is the highest decoration in France and is divided into five degrees: Chevalier (Knight), Officier (Officer), Commandeur (Commander), Grand Officier (Grand Officer) and Grand Croix (Grand Cross)."
Alright, now let's look at Médaille militaire:
"An interesting feature of the médaille is that it is also the supreme award for leadership, being awarded to generals and admirals who had been commanders-in-chief. This particular médaille is considered superior even to the grand cross of the Légion d'honneur."
...therefore it's clear that this is, in fact, an extremely defining award. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:50, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional drugs

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The result of the discussion was: speedy rename per criterion C2D. The Bushranger One ping only 01:02, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Consistent with List of fictional medicines and drugs. --173.51.221.24 (talk) 08:05, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:18, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This Wikipedia category currently contains over 300,000 categories/pages (e.g. Category:1009 and 10), and was presumably created for a good reason, but queries about the purpose and accuracy of the category on its talk page have gone unanswered since October. Why should a Wikipedia category/page be tagged for having a "a local link that is the same as the one stored in Wikidata" (whatever that means) ? How does it help Wikipedia readers/editors ? Note: Many categories/pages in this category are placed there by a template rather than containing a category tag. Note: This is just one of several categories below Category:Wikidata tracking categories.
Note: Due to the size of this category (and hence the disruption if this is deleted then recreated) this CFD shouldn't be closed as delete until a discussion period well in excess of the 7 day minimum. If someone (perhaps User:Multichill) can explain the purpose of this category and whether it is intended to be permanent or temporary then I may withdraw this CFD. Note: Closer integration of (English) Wikipedia with Wikidata may bring many benefits - e.g. it may reduce the attempts by some editors to use the Wikipedia categorization system as a sort of database (e.g. Category:Birds of Ukraine). DexDor (talk) 06:56, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No one has explained why we need to track the categories that do not need work. 'Needed' is not really made clear on the metadata page, which basically says these are done. How does knowing the number fixed help? How is it used? While constancy across languages may be nice, that does not affect this discussion. If it is not really needed here then is it really needed anywhere? So if it goes here, maybe the same should happen on the other language wikis. What is important are the categories that need work. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I myself, despite having been active at Wikidata until only a few months ago, have no idea what this category is supposed to do. I do not see a problem, however, with leaving a hidden tracking category in articles if it helps a sister project, and I trust Multichill and Legoktm in matters of Wikidata bots. Sᴠᴇɴ Mᴀɴɢᴜᴀʀᴅ Wha? 06:29, 22 February 2014 (UTC)----[reply]
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Category:People from Adair, Oklahoma

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small category with just 2 entries. Kennethaw88 (talk) 01:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Blair, Oklahoma

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small category with just 3 entries. Kennethaw88 (talk) 01:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from East Duke, Oklahoma

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small category with just 1 entry. Kennethaw88 (talk) 01:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Eldorado, Oklahoma

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small category with just 2 entries. Kennethaw88 (talk) 01:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Wilson, Oklahoma

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small category with just 1 entry. Kennethaw88 (talk) 01:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Healdton, Oklahoma

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small category with just 1 entry. Kennethaw88 (talk) 01:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Mannford, Oklahoma

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small category with just 1 entry. Although this is categorized under 3 different counties, the article at Mannford, Oklahoma only has Creek County listed. I don't know why the other county categories were added. Kennethaw88 (talk) 01:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Geary, Oklahoma

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small category with just 1 entry. Although Geary is listed as being in both Blaine and Canadian Counties, it appears to be primarily in Blaine. Kennethaw88 (talk) 01:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:2Cellos

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 23:14, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:13, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Club Championship Cats

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus on deletion vs. retention, but for now we will rename all to "FOO matches". This is without prejudice to a future nomination of the new categories for deletion based on any rationale. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:15, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. All these categories contain Championship matches from a certain year. These categories are unnecessary and I'm pretty sure these are a clear example of WP:NOTDEFINING. – Michael (talk) 07:04, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. – Michael (talk) 07:49, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 19:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Reply @GiantSnowman: Notability is a concept relating to articles, and the items listed here are categories. I see no grounds to claim that the articles in these categories are non-notable, so a !vote based on notability seems to have no basis in policy. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • I disagree on that - notability could and should apply across the board. To expand on my initial !vote - these categories serve no purpose, many contain only one article, and there is no precedent at all to have categories of this sort on Wikipedia. Furthermore, they were all created by an editor who had a track record of this kind of editing, and a large number of catrgories he previously created have been deleted/merged. I know that that in itself is not reason to delete, but it certainly makes me question them more. That is what I meant when I said they weren't notable. GiantSnowman 17:26, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all. As far as I can see, a football match has 5 WP:DEFINING characteristics: time+date, location, league or championship, and teams playing. In principle, it seems to me to be right to categorise by all those defining attributes, and these categories capture the last 2 of those 5 attributes.
    However, a series of small categories which cannot be expanded is a disruption to navigation, per WP:SMALLCAT. I tried populating Category:Atlanta Chiefs championships, and brought it ip to 3 articles, which is still on the small side. I could accept a category of that size as part of a series, but don't know at this point whether any of the other categories would reach a minimum of 5 articles.
    I see that in soccer, the convention is categorise all articles on a clubs matches together, under Category:Association football matches by club (see for example Category:Sunderland A.F.C. matches), rather than just championship matches. These categories may be better renamed to "Foo matches", to broaden their scope. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:20, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • If categories cannot be populated then what purpose do they serve to aid navigation, whether they are part of a series or not? Perhaps those that can be populated (3 articles as an absolute minimum) should be kept, and if they are I agree they should be renamed. GiantSnowman 13:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think we are coming to a bit of agreement here, because I agree no point in keeping them all if they are tiny; but a few tiny ones as part of a series can serve a useful purpose. Unfortunately, we don't yet know how much material exists to populate these categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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  • Keep and rename to Foo matches, and add any other articles about matches involving Foo. A notable match Foo v Boo should go under 'Foo matches' and 'Boo matches' (defining characteristics) but I'm not sure whether we need to note the winner in the categorisation scheme. Oculi (talk) 15:25, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cuca (band)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 23:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content —Justin (koavf)TCM 08:48, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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  • Delete - If only the nominator would formulate proper nominations as he has been asked so many times before. He could simply write out a complete nomination and save it as a document, pasting it in as needed for each new nomination. This is a small category with no prospect of expansion that is not required to navigate the contents. The lead article is sufficient. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 05:08, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sports Night

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 23:11, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content —Justin (koavf)TCM 08:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 00:54, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - If only the nominator would formulate proper nominations as he has been asked so many times before. He could simply write out a complete nomination and save it as a document, pasting it in as needed for each new nomination. This is a small category with no prospect of expansion that is not required to navigate the contents. The lead article is sufficient. Jerry Pepsi (talk) 05:08, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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